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[011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:34 pm
by Schmendrick
Relying on fish for on-the-fly healing, but... running out of fish? No problem!

Biter Bites lets you harvest biter (and spitter) corpses for meat, which heal a little bit, like fish.

Raw meat heals a very small amount and has a relatively long cooldown. Take it back to your base, though, and you can cook them in batches of 10 to make delicious roasts.
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Biter corpses must be harvested to yield meat, so no need to worry about excessive meat clutter.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:31 am
by n9103
Interesting.
Don't suppose the corpse harvesting can be automated?

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:04 am
by Schmendrick
Well, yes and no. Construction bots should be able to harvest, but in this mod, by itself, there isn't a way to automatically designate for deconstruction. I could probably add that but it would require learning (haven't touched bot-related scripts yet) and this was a pretty low effort mod to begin with (just being honest, I'm remarkably unmotivated lately).

So.. maybe in the future.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 pm
by Araxiel
I think you uploaded the wrong file: The .zip contains the prototypes from the miniaturized assembly machines, not the biter bites. Although, the biter bites sprites are there.

On the other hand, I might be completely stupid and missing something and therefor wrong.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:07 pm
by Schmendrick
Araxiel wrote:I think you uploaded the wrong file: The .zip contains the prototypes from the miniaturized assembly machines, not the biter bites. Although, the biter bites sprites are there.

On the other hand, I might be completely stupid and missing something and therefor wrong.
It's.. both. :D I often just copy an old mod directory over when making a new mod and edit accordingly. I just forgot to remove the Miniatiaturization files. So the mod as is is fine, it just has some vestigial features (that shouldn't be loaded by Factorio, so they should have no negative impact other than taking up a few extra kb on your hard drive). Next time I update things I'll fix it.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:39 am
by Schmendrick
n9103 wrote:Interesting.
Don't suppose the corpse harvesting can be automated?
I looked into it further and no, corpse harvesting can't be automated. This is a Factorio engine limit, may or may not change in future versions.

Re: [0.11.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:44 am
by n9103
I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
The devs are very liberal and implementing API and functions that benefit mods and not vanilla.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:09 am
by FishSandwich
Schmendrick wrote:
n9103 wrote:Interesting.
Don't suppose the corpse harvesting can be automated?
I looked into it further and no, corpse harvesting can't be automated.
Why not? Dytech and f-mod are able to do it..

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:04 am
by n9103
They apply a process to items in the entity's range? I was pretty sure they just picked up items in range.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:48 am
by FishSandwich
It could be set to drop meat and have an item collector like dytech/f-mod. Or set to deconstruct and collected by a construction bot automatically, like treefarm does(obviously corpses would have to be changed so they can be deconstructed, but that shouldn't be too difficult).

That's just two examples of how to automate it, I'm sure there's more.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:30 am
by Schmendrick
The corpse type isn't legal for deconstruction, and as far as I can tell is fairly hardcodey regarding its lifetime and slow fade.

The deconstruction issue might be able to be gotten around by being clever with non-corpse substitution, but the appeal in my opinion is that corpses decay and disappear automatically if not collected; I don't want the map cluttering with magically nondecaying meat so I'm happy to use the existing corpse mechanics. Meat/roasts are only consumed in manual-level rates (by the player, not in any recipes or machines), so I'm pretty okay with the manual harvesting limitation. If it changes in the future I'll be happy to write support for auto collection, but in my opinion it's really a non-issue.

Re: [011.0 +] Biter Bites

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:51 am
by n9103
Or... you could get all gruesome with it and make recipes that do use meat on an automated level :P
And the decaying is a big part of this particular mod. No "magic meat" clutter.

But as is, it's not a real issue.
My initial inquiry (months ago) was an interest in setting up the meat in an outpost system, right next to the ammo and capsules.
Still doable, but more manual than I would have liked, thus the question.