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Underground pipes and belts can also be built the same way as poles in 0.13:

provet wrote:Looking forward to it!

Also my best guess regarding why fluid wagon tanks won't appear in .13 are that the devs want to do them much better than the mod(s).
like:
*Able to show liquids without mouse hover. (just like with the stationary ones)
*Have a better way to refill/empty than just placing electric pump near the tracks (Like an actual liquid off/on-load station-thingy)
*Different graphical colors on the wagons dependent of things like content.
*The wagon being an actual moving thing, and not just a stationary liquid tank that teleports onto the same spot as the wagon.
*Graphically different than the usual wagons.
*New cool features. (filters, combinator logic etc)
*Bug testing (so they work as intended upon release)

So it's not just as simple as to just add them to the base game cause mods exists with them already. The devs will do them better and more integrated than the mods have!

Creat wrote:Great FF again, getting more and more impatient about 0.13...

I do have a comment about the achievement-icons though: I assume that the framing is copper, silver and gold. But copper and gold are way too similar. If you only saw the copper icon by itself (not next to the gold one), it would be hard to to tell if it was actually copper or gold.
So I hope you revise the circle-colors a bit, but nevertheless they are looking great, can't wait to earn them

And "Native mod portal integration" is probably the single best item in the that list of awesomeness. I really want to be able to subscribe to my mods so they're always updated. Wherther it's via steam workshop or another way (that works with the noDRM client) doesn't matter to me.
I do hope I'll be able to subscribe to a long list of mods that are kept updated and that I still can decide which mods to enable in game independently. Keeping my mods updated has turned into quite a bit of effort, even though it hasn't quite reached Kerbal-Space-Program-Levels (thank GOD for CKAN) it's still half an hour every couple of days (or weeks)...

madpav3l wrote:I am looking forward to this

Graphical gui redesign - one of the big things that just had to be done sooner or later, we will definitely talk about it in detail in the future FFF

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All the other things were revealed already except the "Ease of use", but this is something new and exciting!

hauk70 wrote:Seriously why fluid wagon pushed back? I do not understand what could be so complicated? as for me much more difficult spider.

Ekelbatzen wrote:Isn't "graphical gui" kind of redundant? It would stand for "graphical graphical user interface" then.
But otherwise, good news

indjev99 wrote:Why don't you take the Minecraft route? What I mean by that is you should have some snapshots where only some of the features of the update are implemented. That we can enjoy the new features (the ones that are nearly finished) and also test them, while you are working on the rest. Of course these snapshots would not be the default update, but only for people who want experimental builds.

Koub wrote:

lancar wrote

lancar wrote:I hope you guys can find some good additions to the team.

On the subject of icons, I went back to play factorio again after a long break and got to get a feel for the new tech icons. I'd seen them before in an FFF but it's still a bit of a different thing to see & use them in-game than on a summary screen on the website.

The result?
I was... confused.
The icons are extremely pretty, make no mistake. They're almost works of art in graphics quality and attention to detail...
...so much that they all blended together into a big mess before my eyes.

The old placeholder icons were not great, but due to their simplified nature they were significantly easier to distinguish from another at a glance.
I'm definitely not saying you should re-design new ones, but I think they could use a few quick tweaks to make them more easier to sort on the tech screen.

For example, color the top-left corner of the icon with the color of the highest research packs required for it - this would make it much easier to see which techs can be researched right now, and which needs the next tier(s) of science packs. It would also provide some extra "oooh!" feeling when you see techs with a purple tag. Purple is mmo-code for epic stuff, after all

Armor already use a good way to make themselves stand out from the other techs with the black silhouette of a man in the icon, and this kind of easy-to-see effect symbol is something I'd like to see added to some of the other techs as well to classify the different kinds of things you can research.
The damage up and fire-speed up upgrade for weapons, for example, currently use a targeting reticule and stopwatch art, along with red and blue tint (respectively), to indicate which does which. However, the abundance of red and blue in all the other tech icons diminishes the latter and the extreme detail of all the art blurs the former. I believe these could be improved with symbols that're easier to differentiate, like plain non-stylized up-arrows instead. Like the black armor-mod icons, they need to not be artistic so as to make it easier for the human eye to spot them.

I also think that techs could be categorized with some sort of marker that indicates which "tree" it belongs in (logistics, production, military). This would make it easier to find the area you wish to focus on when the box pops up.


Of course, all this might just be pointless when the proper research tree is released, but I figured I'd air my thoughts about it anyway.
As for the achievement icons, they're looking mighty spiffy I especially like how they remind me of actual trophies.

That's exactly what I felt too : even made a post some time ago here : viewtopic.php?p=126047#p126047
I'm glad I'm ntot the only one who prefered the quite schematic previous tech icons to the new fancy but overloaded research icons.