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The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:22 pm
by Cordylus
What is the most useless thing in the Factorio. What do you think?

I think that most useless are landmines. They need explosives available in the intermediate stage of the game when you have tons of the laser turrets. Their damage isn't very high, and they need constant replacing.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:43 pm
by Choumiko
This, absolutly useless
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and then landmines for me too i guess

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:47 pm
by FishSandwich
Choumiko wrote:This, absolutly useless
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and then landmines for me too i guess
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Also discharge defense. Does anyone EVER use that? and if so, WHY?

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:31 pm
by gepwin
The Burner Mining Drill. I build maybe 3 of the things before I get to electricity then they sit in storage forever.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:09 am
by Marconos
Rocket Launcher ... does anyone every use that thing? So lackluster .... or maybe the tank. My hope is they aren't done designing those things yet.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:20 am
by icelom
gepwin wrote:The Burner Mining Drill. I build maybe 3 of the things before I get to electricity then they sit in storage forever.
But you use those....

Burner inserters however have no use at all.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:30 am
by FishSandwich
icelom wrote:Burner inserters however have no use at all.
Not true. I use burner inserters to fuel my boilers. :D

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:34 am
by gepwin
FishSandwich wrote:
icelom wrote:Burner inserters however have no use at all.
Not true. I use burner inserters to fuel my boilers. :D
LOL Fish I was just about to say that, you beat my reply :)

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:37 am
by Trepidati0n
gepwin wrote:The Burner Mining Drill. I build maybe 3 of the things before I get to electricity then they sit in storage forever.
I used nearly a dozen BMD's to get going. It really speeds up the game especialy when back to back mining coal.

Usually 6 on coal, 4 on iron, 2 on copper...and 1 on stone.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:12 am
by Animar
What about Handgrenades ? I never used them at all.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:15 am
by OBAMA MCLAMA
Animar wrote:What about Handgrenades ? I never used them at all.
I started to use them when multiplayer was released.... as a jumpscare.

if we are talking about items.. the items that are not usable are obv the most useless.
discharge is useless.

but the title says thing... the exit button on the main menu, i never click it.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:14 am
by Martc
Grenades are very effective against small bitters. So killing fist nests is a lot easier with them.
I don't even remember what Discharge defense does :)

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:17 am
by t33
Definately fish, never had any use for it. (Sorry FishSandwich ;) )

I've never used Night Vision for the armor, too. :)

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:41 am
by Adil
Martc wrote:Grenades are very effective against small bitters.
AP bullets, that are unlocked by the same tech are even more effective and work well even if biters attack in steady stream rather than one concentrated group.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:10 pm
by Gandalf
Most useless stuff is in the military section. I never use flamethrowers, landmines and discharge
defense. However I DO use the rocket launcher and grenades (against dense nests and trees) as
well as tanks.

Some things aren't useful for long but for a limited time they are. This includes burner mining drills
and grenades. On the other hand the flame thrower immediately comes with a ton of alternatives,
requires a lot of dedicated research itself, is very close range and still doesn't do any significant
damage.

I like that there is variety but imho there should be some sort of rock-paper-scissor damage variation
going on. So maybe flame throwsers could be particularly effective against spitters, while explosive
amunition also stuns biters for a few seconds etc. And I'm not talking about a 5% bonus, I mean
noticable differences in weapon efficiency. I could even immagine a weapon specifically designed
for taking down nests that does very little damage to anything else (I originally assumed that to be
the purpose of flame throwers but they suck at that as well…).

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:51 pm
by Niuno
I don't think a burner inserter is useless. Near my boilers I have a few chests filled with useless wood with the burner inserters next to it. If for some reason I am out of coal and the boilers can't work, I can easily connect the transport belt so the boilers get filled with wood and I have electric again. So I can look for new coal.
It is good to have a kind of a backup system for the electric that isn't dependent on electric.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:55 pm
by FishSandwich
t33 wrote:Definately fish, never had any use for it. (Sorry FishSandwich ;) )
I'll forgive you, because your name reminds me of my favorite drink. :D

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:17 pm
by ssilk
B52? That is also mine! :lol:

Many bar keepers cannot make it. The best was in a hotel bar in Karlsruhe: the barkeeper needs three tries to make it burn. I could "test" his misses, I never was so drunk after one B52. :D

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:32 pm
by silenced
First I used Handgrenades to remove forests, then I realized: Oh, you cannot built on craters, screw that! Now I use construction robots to get rid of forests, it's way better.

I sometimes use Rocketlaunchers against early worms, they're quite useful.

Re: The most useless thing in game.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:19 pm
by cpy
Landmines/Discharge defense. If those things got removed nobody would even notice. Flamethrower is useless too.