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FishSandwich wrote:Lol, you really want to see that design don't you. :p

-root wrote:He has a thang for solar panels

• "that" was just the end of lifetime of the combat robots. Nothing really spectacular
• Poison capsules are no waste. Them and piercing shootgun shells are the most effective weapons. Everything else like flame thrower or rockets are complete crap. And I am really not shure if the big capsules are worth there material. I just discover them myself and by making them I really sucked my steel out of a good base. The lifetime of only 2 min is not the longest. They get eaten or shot down by worms fast - or they kill everything and you have nothing more to do for them. I could have ended the game (reached an existing but not started rocket defense) without a single combat robot. They are usable, but the price is high.
• After you are fast enough, you can use 2 (for bigger groups 4-5) poison capsules to circle around and letting the biters stay permanently in the poison. Even big biters die off fast from it if you use the poison not just for one shot but for its whole lifetime. And for worms there is nothing better. 2-3 capsules, when your range arrives at them, lead the biters to the turrets and when you return (perhaps after a second time) the poison almost killed all worms and they can be shot very fast without really shooting back.
• You can expand the lifetime of your combat robots by circling them around the biters. If they stay over the biters, they are eaten quite fast. But I think you are a bit slow to circle them in a good way until you reach Power Armor M2 with at least 3 sceletons.
• Why don't you push your wall north? Letting it where it is, it is not that easy than you think (specially if you are still slow). And as you get more distance to your laser turrets the danger rises exponentially because after you returned from your wall after this leading-biters-to-the-wall-curve you have the next wave already getting created. It gets harder every tile you seem to make good. So by reducing the distance to your wall by moving it, you will succeed better and waste less amo. Just energy.

Xecutor wrote:In my experience destruction bots are starting to be of use when there are at least 15 of them (i.e. 3 capsules).

FishSandwich wrote:Sup guys, so part 30 of my "Hard Mode" playthrough is up!

What North Base?! - Factorio 0.10.6 "Hard Mode" #30
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• Power armor 2 (still to research)
• Second reactor
• 3-4 exosceletons
• Rest is shield 2 (but without Samuel L. Jackson )

JoshLittle wrote:I really think you want so save some of your newly gained artifacts for a really good armor upgrade:

• Power armor 2 (still to research)
• Second reactor
• 3-4 exosceletons
• Rest is shield 2 (but without Samuel L. Jackson )

Xecutor wrote:Transporting copper cables for electronic circuits production is actually a bad idea.
I think like 3 or 4 AM2 producing EC at full speed can consume all the throughput of an express belt full of copper cables.
You better redesign your EC production for direct insertion of copper cables.
As for copper plates - you might want to replace red belt with express, at least near upper half of furnaces.
If you look carefully, 2-3 furnaces at the end are waiting a few moments here and there to put the plate on the belt.

JoshLittle wrote:

• Try to get the artifacts on the island by placing/ghosting provider chests over them

• Who said something about a big pole?
• That deconstruction of the turrets was really terrible. It was more then obvious that a wave of biters will interrupt. And yes, also the initial construction of it
• Why do you even consider to make only an external mining-base for the coal? You really need to expand north. There is no other direction the lake will help (just a bit west to then expand downwards for the copper). And to encase that outpost you propably need more defense than just to expand. So it is really clear that you have to at least expand to that coal+iron patches. After that I agree that copper is your next big problem that could not really be solved in the north.
• You ask what the viewers want to see next. Hmmm, what about a good design of solar and accumulators?

JoshLittle wrote:

JoshLittle wrote:

• Try to get the artifacts on the island by placing/ghosting provider chests over them

• Who said something about a big pole?

JoshLittle wrote:[*]That deconstruction of the turrets was really terrible. It was more then obvious that a wave of biters will interrupt. And yes, also the initial construction of it

JoshLittle wrote:[*]Why do you even consider to make only an external mining-base for the coal? You really need to expand north. There is no other direction the lake will help (just a bit west to then expand downwards for the copper). And to encase that outpost you propably need more defense than just to expand. So it is really clear that you have to at least expand to that coal+iron patches. After that I agree that copper is your next big problem that could not really be solved in the north.

JoshLittle wrote:[*]You ask what the viewers want to see next. Hmmm, what about a good design of solar and accumulators? [/list]