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Another major balance issue has come my way regarding hexafluorite after spending hours building and running it. (The 570/m U-238 cycle setup I mentioned in your thermonuclear thread)

The entire setup is rather massive and vastly expensive for just a minor savings of uranium ore, but the largest offender is that the fluorine cost isn't worth it in the slightest. The best way to go about this is providing fluorite waste water after the creation of the hexaflourite with a 90% return so it's moderately self-sustainable and not wasteful.

The entire setup is very expensive in both power and materials overall, so self-sustainability is critical when the gains aren't worth the constant cost of power and materials. This helps make it costly to get it started but much more tolerable to run over a prolonged period of time, just as the uranium power mod was designed to be. However, constantly paying this high cost destroys the entire chain and makes uranium ore alone far superior.

I've got some visual representations to support this, which are all based on my per minute process of 570 uranium cycles.

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Just a small sample of the requirements for hexaflourite (Including the sulfate recycling!) Uranium ore alone It's quite extensive and complicated in its own right, but when you also factor in the Angels ores required to make the essentials, you start to really notice the heavy cost.


Fluorite + Uranium ore Uranium alone Far cheaper by a long shot, even without all the other processing materials on top of it. So that's something else to add to your list to reconsider the balance for to make it more worthwhile.

Light wrote:...

Thanks for the extremely indepth feedback.

I'll adjust the fluorine gas and hydrofluoric acid requirements.

Unfortunately there might be quite a long wait until I next update Processing, because I'm currently struggling with my Koravex overhaul and there are a TON of things to balance there (so many spreadsheets)

Hmu on Discord and I'll send you a prototype if you want

MadClown01 wrote:Hmu on Discord and I'll send you a prototype if you want

I do not use Discord, so a PM on here would suffice.

MadClown01 wrote:Hmu on Discord and I'll send you a prototype if you want

Which discord? lol

ZombieMooose wrote:

MadClown01 wrote:Hmu on Discord and I'll send you a prototype if you want

Which discord? lol

Factorio official or Cult Omnissiah

After downloading the latest update of Processing factorio gives me an error:
'Path _Clowns-Nuclear_/graphics/icons/ore-5.png does not match any enabled mod'
It seems Processing is looking for several icons from your Nuclear Munitions Mod. I am not using biters and as such do not have that mod installed.

The locations are (grep for the win):
electronics.lua:20
electronics.lua:49
pure-processing.lua:48
pure-processing.lua:51
pure-processing.lua:99
pure-processing.lua:149
pure-processing.lua:199
pure-processing.lua:251
pure-processing.lua:303

Nedreow wrote:...

Fixed. Thanks for the heads-up.

Light wrote:...

ZombieMooose wrote:...

Actually, I changed my mind and just released it. Enjoy!

Hi,

did you remove the kovarex enrrichment process?

Nuklear Fission Armor don't start anymore.

Edit: yes you niled it. That's a no-go.
Only disable it if necessary.

Nuclear Artillery also don't start anymore.

Maybe loop through all techs and recipes and replace the kep with yours.

steinio wrote:Hi,

did you remove the kovarex enrrichment process?

Nuklear Fission Armor don't start anymore.

Edit: yes you niled it. That's a no-go.
Only disable it if necessary.

Nuclear Artillery also don't start anymore.

Maybe loop through all techs and recipes and replace the kep with yours.

Ahhh whoops sorry - will fix when I get home. I did add a game setting that will preserve the Koravex process

Found unused boric acid in MadClown's Processing - borax boron have many many applications in py mods
Where do u planing to use boric acid?

aklesey1 wrote:Found unused boric acid in MadClown's Processing - borax boron have many many applications in py mods
Where do u planing to use boric acid?

Shhhhh don't spoil the surprise

hello
I just update factorio to 16.30 and mods with mod updater and got this error (in attachment).
Disabling your mod is sufficient to run factioro.

But after toggiling it back with angels refining result with error.

Xoryk wrote:hello
I just update factorio to 16.30 and mods with mod updater and got this error (in attachment).
Disabling your mod is sufficient to run factioro.

But after toggiling it back with angels refining result with error.

Fixed!

unfortunatly not everything, this time thorium-pure-processing

edit: Instaling MadClown01's Extended AngelBob Minerals fixed the problem

Xoryk wrote:unfortunatly not everything, this time thorium-pure-processing

edit: Instaling MadClown01's Extended AngelBob Minerals fixed the problem

I'm 99% sure my latest release fixes this bug

Where Ammonium Chloride can be used what do u think?

aklesey1 wrote:Where Ammonium Chloride can be used what do u think?

I don't think there's any new functionality for it that isn't covered already by other chemicals.

MadClown01 wrote:

Xoryk wrote:unfortunatly not everything, this time thorium-pure-processing
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I'm 99% sure my latest release fixes this bug

Just tested it with 1.2.2 and the error still persists.
I have yet to install your ore mod though to see if that fixes the error. (But it that case it should either be resolved or listed as a dependency, right?)

Anyway cool additions

EDIT:
The error is caused by data.lua only checking if mods["Clowns-Nuclear"] exists and then adding the technology result thorium-pure-processing
Which is defined in pure-processing.lua, but checks that BOTH mods["Clowns-Nuclear"] AND mods["Clowns-Extended-Minerals"] are defined.
So as a hotfix, move the first in data.lua below the second one

reinei wrote:...

Thanks heaps - fixed for next release.